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Reply Adarsh khanna says October 14, 2014 at 5:27 pm all levels of Lipid profile decreased it is good but HDL level of 25 is alarming. Reply Mario says February 22, 2016 at 9:45 am Dear Mr Gomez. It is just a matter of when, not if, it will happen. I am actually referring to the refined carbs. Many heart health professionals and even organizations have not yet changed their recommendations in light of this new information. Reply Romy JUGROO says May 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm Hi,My fasting blood cholesterol is nearly twice the normal for over 10 years. The China Study by Colin Campbell is an interesting book. There is a large review of the study at Reply Lisa says June 17, 2016 at 1:21 pm I like the taste of bacon, butter, grilled meats, but I eat plant based and I do not ADD oils such as olive,vanilla or any type of oil to my food. Bringing your cholesterol up above 150 (or even better, 160) will reduce your risk of these health problems more than it increases your risk of heart disease — thereby reducing your all-cause risk of mortality. Reply Tom says October 28, 2014 at 12:01 pm I waited until my weight loss stabilized before getting my blood work done and saw my HDL go really high, while my LDL went down. Niacin might effect your HDL level some but would add exercise to the mix. Heavy meat eaters without enough plant fibre in their diets get dreadfully clogged digestive systems and constipation which can also lead to diverticulosis. Yeasty too. Still working on it, but ratios are all good. Ideal is high HDL and low LDL and Triglycerides. Then a friend to,d me to eat more fats, and thing went haywire. Reply Stephanie says November 2, 2014 at 1:28 am Saffron, It may be hereditary or genetic, and not have anything to do with lifestyle. Look up the ill effects of phytic acid in wheat and beans on your gut flora and you will be amazed what you find. One example can be found here: A similar study was made on consumption of eggs. I myself love to eat a wide variety of foods from plants, nuts, animals, etc. Reply Robert Baqrrett says December 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm It seems that there is a sort of cherry picking going on here regarding the studies that are sited. But I saw cholesterol improvements within a month or two Reply Regina says May 30, 2016 at 7:23 am Did your HDL go up. Inflammation occurs in an acidic environment, damages blood vessels walls, which call for cholesterol to form plaque to provide protection. Reply DAYA says June 20, 2015 at 7:39 am Hi Liz This is no advice but it works for me. More Joy recipe remakes: French fries, doughnuts and brownies. So I will tell you that for some reason, the old advice IS working for my fiance. Read this eBook to find out which ingredients you should be concerned about, and which are safe. We choose to serve grass-fed, glass-bottled, non-homogenized Jersey whole milk. The doctor said in the last year and a half, my new diet has made my health worse according to the blood tests. So, will continue the HFLC diet and add the Paleo component to it. I am the one who is doing all the research and applying it on them. A south Indian population which predominantly consumed coconut oil, turned toward sunflower oil. Reply Mac says September 23, 2016 at 12:29 pm The fact of the matter is regardless of cholesterol intake or levels, the overwhelming majority of studies demonstrate a correlation between animal products (which are the sources of dietary cholesterol) and coronary disease. Those of you who go HCLF, make sure you get the right carbs and all the good fats. Reply vince gomez says January 16, 2016 at 12:03 pm I have read many comments here. on the other hand if I eat too much meat I get too many androgens and greasy with hair loss. If yours are high, you may want to cut back on carbs. Excess carbs are converted to triglycerides which can increase bad cholesterol levels. It is important to note what lab values ARE associated with risk for heart disease. I have started with a LCHF diet set by Prof. I agree your doctor is killing you, but slowly. my mouth and sinus probs have returned and a biopsy is being done soon. is irrelevant when it is obvious that the food must be avoided regardless. Learn More Gut Health Research suggests that healing your gut may be the single most important thing you can do to improve your health. First, regarding the lipid panel, should I be concerned with higher TC and LDL. dietary cholesterol does indeed cause, create and mitigate serum cholesterol, and 2. It depends on what your LDL and triglycerides are. These people just want to sell you something. Reply Teresa Morris says December 15, 2016 at 3:38 am The biggest change you made was adding exercise by riding your bike. Mostly because I am actively watching it happen in my partner. Reply IGNATIUS KUNJUMON says May 6, 2016 at 9:49 am I have different opinion about the clogging of unsaturated fatty acids. I get protein from regular consumption of legumes, soy products, and nuts. Reply Steve says September 14, 2016 at 8:36 am No, mine stayed the same. Here are some very current studies that show quite the opposite: What can largely be extrapolated is that sufficient evidence exists to link diet, cholesterol and CVD, however, there remain unknown factors (environmental as well as biochemical) that may, in and of themselves, be causal or supplemental to this link. Cholesterol is produced by the liver and we need it badly to maintain health. S. It is an easy experiment to do, and yields individually relevant results. Alison Reply Robert says November 9, 2015 at 3:08 pm Commonsense is indeed important, the trouble is, some people measure commonsense too individually and often have little (commonsense). The articles and comments generally provide more humor than the comics. See: Reply Kendra says May 8, 2016 at 6:53 pm Why would you drink cows milk at all. Industrial animal agriculture is polluting the planet and oceans. I have kept an excel spreadsheet of all my medical testing data since that imd and can graph any long term trends. Basically, everything the newer articles (including this one) are saying is a myth, now. Did you know that not just testosterone but every hormone in your body is derived from cholesterol. With atrocious amount of omega-6, the health of the people got affected. Reply Karina says December 27, 2014 at 8:23 am I want to know about saturated fat and cholesterol intake. Alcohol is bad for you as it spikes insulin just like sugar. She suggested getting off the HFLC diet and switching to a Paleo diet. I strongly urge you to view some of the Robert Lustig lectures on YouTube and perhaps take a look at the what Dr Ron Rosedale has to say about Leptin resistance. He gets his new numbers told to him this week after trying to lower the number for the last 3 months. You will probably discover that your trigs will go down further and HDL will go up more as you continue your healthy lifestyle. There are studies that show saturated fat in meat raises cholesterol therefore if it makes it over 150 it means you just increased your risk of heart disease. Back to the Zone diet where my levels were good, HDL high and LDL low. Why would he or anyone else for that matter. Can you edit the earlier articles and forward-link to the next article. I refused statins which severely damaged my sister. Reply Julie says January 2, 2016 at 8:55 am Absolutely bang on Antony. e plant based foods) because it binds excess cholesterol and helps eliminate it from our bodies. Some cheese actually has sugar in it and depending on your preparation of the red meat also. Reply Daniel says December 8, 2016 at 2:45 am Same here. I was very scientific in my approach to evaluating the affects of eating carbohydrates (refined are worse) and processed foods. Reply Donovan says August 18, 2015 at 12:45 pm Agreed, well put. Reply Regina says May 30, 2016 at 7:33 am It is amazing that people still say this. At the same time like the article says you could be a part of the 25% who is sensitive to sat fat and cholesterol synthesis. But if I try to eat the creamy stuff you mentioned I get tired, my arms get tight from not clearing the stuff as its sticking to me, and fat. The body craves insulin spikes at certain times also. I hope that i can change your mind from being vegetarian because it is bad for your health. processed foods). What were some of the foods he was eating and avoiding. Incentive enough for me to avoid dairy:( Reply Joyce says March 12, 2015 at 5:02 pm Did you eat the high fat while eating the same amount of carbs. I personally happened to stumble across the concept of a low carb high fat diet. As we make cholestorol ourselfes it would be weird to get it from other sources other than yourself. I can eat a small baked potato with like a pork chop. The ONLY butter you should be eating is grass fed such as Kerry gold. Those same people generally choose healthier foods in all food groups, however, because their active bodies feel better eating cleanly (avoiding processed artificial foods). The fact that someone does well for a while, look at T. e. High in dietary fiber (i. ( 5 ) Longer-term studies have not shown an association between saturated fat intake and blood cholesterol levels. I avoid breads, grain, pasta, refined sugar, vegetable oil, and soy. My hdl is good but my triglycerides screw this number up. Exercise is important as it builds muscle mass and breaks down insulin resistance. I am not expert feel taking Niacin will increase HDL level consult your physician khanna Reply David Hannum says October 27, 2014 at 8:04 am Indeed, I would view and HDL level of 25 as alarming. Reply Marianne says September 1, 2016 at 5:48 am I have never been overweight but my blood cholesterol levels reached 190 LDL and 260 overall. Reply Prat says June 13, 2014 at 4:31 am I feel bad when I see the confusion in the minds of people because two camps are being set up, 1. To give you the briefest summary of the main cause of cardiovascular disease, two words: chronic inflammation. Really inform yourselves with current information done with new technology that has made amazing new discoveries about the food we eat. I ate the cheese, the full milk, the creams on fruit and my weights gone nuts, and chol, high in the family anyway, skyrocketed. When they arrived and were viewed by the Indians, they looked more dead than alive. Reply Monica says August 4, 2016 at 4:29 am Very good. , the Internet claims 1,000,000. Also, there was at least one study in which people had heart attacks with total cholesterol below 150 — the MRFIT study. 2. Reply Nicole Frain says February 2, 2015 at 6:23 pm Hi, Loads of people avoid dairy. They are electrical, mechanical and binding actions due to the electrical and mechanical properties of the molecules. This seems counterintuitive, but most MDs only get one or two semesters of nutrition education and that is influenced by dogma that has since had serious flaws exposed since it was introduced 50 years ago. Reply Don says June 25, 2014 at 1:47 pm Alas, science is not common sense. One month after radical change becomes normalcy and the body responds will all sorts of indicators. Reply Stephanie says November 14, 2014 at 6:18 pm I agree that the weight loss was a contributing factor, however he had normal levels before starting the high fat low carb diet previously, at the higher weight. e. But that could just be because of his personal chemistry, maybe. Reply Stephanie Holbrook says June 2, 2015 at 8:38 am I avoid dairy for the same reason. You are actually a person that can be eating eggs, fats, and foods containing cholesterol. I realise we all do what we think is best based in the information we find. Reply smithy says November 10, 2014 at 2:58 pm OK let me drop the bomb, hdl is good cholesterol. c An omega 6 to omega 3 ratio close to 1:1 and not what most people consume which is closer to 15:1. When you have an excess of glucose which comes from carbs, that will get stored. Because, a look at the preponderance of evidence Now (current epidemiological studies) fairly convincingly shows that at least two of your assumptions are false: 1. My doc put me on stronger statins again for two month, and will take my bloods again to see if they work. An easy lower-body workout you can do anywhere. Opinions aside, is there any conclusive evidence supporting the lipid hypothesis or not. Generally the HDL ratio should be above 25 and preferably in the 30s. I did LCHF before and went down to a 37 inch waist, a short spell on HCLF, has me back around 40 inch waist, and about 5kg heavier, because I have a high cholesterol, I will eat more mono fats like olive and avocado, but will still eat the fat on my meat, and eggs with yolks, only time will tell, because science seems very mixed up. Reply Liz says February 27, 2015 at 5:33 am I went on the high fat low carb diet and my cholesterol went above 300 from 200 in 6 months. Reply Jor says April 14, 2016 at 1:00 pm Wrong Carbs cause inflammation. Diary is processed and it you previously avoided it you may have built up a bit of an intolerance. Which diet and fitness plan is right for you. My HDL, VLDL, Insulin, Trigly, A1C and CRP got better on the HFLC diet. Why rely on the body and give it more stress to do anything, such as any protein synthesis, when u can jus eat something. If you want lean mass you-ll need some fats and saturated ones, dont be silly. Likely your blocked carotid is from eating high-carb and pro-inflammatory foods (i. While my total cholesterol went up, my trigliceride level went down and my HDL went up. Teens are posting photos of their burns from the viral salt and ice challenge on social media. There are certain processes at work in your body that are ONLY present in carnivores. Reply Cliff says July 14, 2016 at 2:01 pm Well said Lisa. We hunted our meats and gathered our plants and fruits. High cholesterol in the blood is the cause of heart disease. Cheers Reply Joyce says March 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm It depends on the cheese and the preparation of the red meat. Reply Cteer says April 16, 2016 at 6:50 am Thank god someone said it. They can all be caused by B12 deficiency. People who exercise frequently, hard enough to get the heart rate up for a little while each work out, can eat anything they want and remain healthy and at a healthy weight. High triglyceride and homocystein levels are responsible for cvd. Reply Jose Carlos says February 11, 2015 at 6:22 pm Those old diet advice, ridiculous low fat and high carb doesnt works, its already proven. Most trans fats (bad fats) i. Reply Ken says February 19, 2016 at 7:50 pm I highly suggest you learn what doctors like Caldwell Esselstyn have learned at places like the Cleveland Clinic: Reply MONIQUE says February 11, 2016 at 4:49 am I HAVE BEEN ON THE LOW CARB LIFE STYLE FOR 3 YEARS. He has stopped eating a lot of cheese and pastas and not over eating at all. But what about studies that seemingly link intake of red meat (and eggs) to adverse gut bacteria growth linked to heart disease. It helped me with my cholesterol and other things as well. You can eat any type of natural food and live healthy and long. is quite angry because I did it without drugs. Truthfully lack of activity is the most likely culprit behind supposed increase in obesity and heart disease in the U. Also a diet high in fermented foods is very important. I have nothing against any way of eating, just get sick of the preaching that goes on, especially as you are on a LCHF site. If there is not enough sugar in the blood, the body will release adrenaline to break down proteins into glucose. Reply Matt says December 10, 2015 at 9:10 pm Define healthy. Having been diagnosed with Hypertension, I went to a plant-based lifestyle and I am now feeling great and no longer have high BP. Reply Shailendra Chaudhary says May 10, 2015 at 6:36 pm Christine, Two of my family members are practising LCHF diet with some decent results and no downside effect on Cholesterol. Reply kirk says August 9, 2014 at 2:23 pm since everybody is different, I decided to see how my own body reacts to lowering dietary cholesterol. Saturated fats is one type of fat amongst many and when metabolized becomes fatty acids. But a diet that is low fat, low cholesterol and low carb will lower blood cholesterol for everyone. Reply RobertL says October 18, 2015 at 12:41 pm Vegan diets are flawed. Cholestorol and saturated fat from animal products can NOT be good for you. High saturated fat diet for one person may not raise cholesterol while for others it will. I make my own salad dressing with evoo and apple cider vinegar and even eat the occasional carb now and again. Reply Matt says May 21, 2014 at 4:35 pm Thomas, thanks for your advice — makes sense. Bottom line: There are many variables and none of the scientific knowledge that we acquire is the last word. You said vegans make you sick, but the fact is eating a vegan diet does great for people and the planet. 3. I went on a strict low fat low cholesterol diet where I had to write everything down that I ate from a list for an extended period of time. We know along with heart disease this is a number one killer. Avoid excess levels of refined carbs and processed foods 3. Reply Pete says September 21, 2016 at 8:17 am Being insulting does not take the discussion forward. Lastly, how long have you been on the HFLC diet. Yeah, that is pretty cool, and I feel better. Hoping with treatment for that my blood cholesterol will lower. For example, a meta-analysis of 17 low-carb diet trials covering 1,140 obese patients published in the journal Obesity Reviews found that low-carb diets neither increased nor decreased LDL cholesterol. I am however eating what are termed bad foods, crisps, chips again etc. I guarentee you that every vegetarian is lacking in some micronutrient. Eliminating all fat would mean eliminating the essential oils. How chef Rocco DiSpirito lost 30 pounds: It starts with a huge breakfast. Reply Regina says May 31, 2016 at 6:55 am Chris, that is not an article. If it is in the 40s, that nearly guarantees immunity from heart disease. But these studies are almost always short-term, lasting only a few weeks. Reply Shailendra Chaudhary says December 3, 2014 at 10:01 am Stephanie, your experiences and take are the most valuable for this debate. Thinking outside the box: Finnish baby boxes could save infant lives. My new doc suggested I ELIMINATE all oils and my chloresterol dropped 50 points. These pancakes are packed with protein to start your day right. Reply martin says June 9, 2015 at 6:56 am What we eat that we want to eat matters to the world. Find out what the latest research says in this eBook, and learn how to prevent and treat heart disease naturally. Processed meat, including a steak from a corn fed cow is toxic. I sleep fine at night and am healthy as hell. This explains why well-designed cholesterol feeding studies (where they feed volunteers 2-4 eggs a day and measure their cholesterol) show that dietary cholesterol has very little impact on blood cholesterol levels in about 75% of the population. I suspect you have been brainwashed into believing that you are worthless and weak and that you are somehow responsible for your condition. You mention it rose again, after adding healthy fats. Plant-based diet is the only truly healthy diet for humans. This diet can no longer be defended by appeal to the authority of prestigious medical organizations. His overall cholesterol is very high but his coronary risk is very low. Reply Nancy says August 1, 2016 at 2:10 pm I recommend everyone get blood tests to see how any diet affects them. Margarine is actually naturally white, not grey or black. I am starting to wonder about cholesterol because these new articles are quite the contrary to the experience we are having. Reply Alex says May 10, 2015 at 11:36 am Was it good fats or bad fats. As consumers we MUST learn to do our own research. Lsl is not bad but rather neutral cholesterol. I cut sugar and refined carbs, lost 11 kilos in 28 days and felt great. Tim Noakes and am experiencing wonderful health bennifits. Which diet and fitness plan is right for you. Reply Rosa Martinez-Button says July 15, 2014 at 4:57 pm Where is the next article. Most people automatically regulate both types of cholesterol regardless of how much cholesterol is ingested. A statin made me ill and lowered my HDL, so we stopped it after six months. Reply Michael Suede says January 13, 2016 at 8:08 am I went vegan a year ago and had blood work done prior to, during, and a year after going vegan. Cut through the confusion and hype and find out which sweeteners are safe for you and your family. Yes, I miss the taste of oils a bit, but ESTATIC about my health and I look and feel fabulous. Whereas if it is below 15, and certainly below 10, a heart attack is inevitable. Reply Harold says June 8, 2015 at 3:37 am I only come to this site for amusement. ), but try to tell someone on such a diet that. If meat is so essential to our health, then one would expect, for instance, Adventist vegans to be unhealthy, or the Okinawan elders, or the Ornish patients. My point is that there are people on this thread saying that their cholesterol levels are thru the roof on a ketogenic diet. Marker Jan-14 May-14 Glucose, Serum 102 108 Insulin 12. If you decide to eliminate entire nutrient types, i. Reply Chef Sharynne Frazer says May 9, 2014 at 9:40 am Chris I have a talk radio show. First, figure out your caloric requirement (for whatever you are trying to accomplish). Medium chain triglycerides (MCT) such as lauric acid are good healthful saturated fats that can be found in high levels in coconut and extra virgin coconut oil (not the bad hydrogenated stuff) and grassfed butter. The author also points out that many of our current healthcare professionals still give advice based on antiquated and erroneous ideas that were perpetuated back when they were in school. I find it interesting that your friend saw the drop in HDL on a high fat low carb diet. Do you have a Debbie Downer in your life. Reply Lou says January 17, 2015 at 8:42 am Go back to what you were doing before. Best is high ldl, medium hdl and looow triglycerides. Reply Tom says October 23, 2016 at 10:59 am All we can do is to report how exogenous cholesterol affects our own bodies. There is not just one thing and source to follow. Learn More The Low Down on Low Carb What is a low carb diet, really. Many questions, many doubts, but one thing I do believe and know is that there is no bad cholesterol, our efforts should be more focused on how to lower inflammation levels which is the real culprit behind diseases associated with high cholesterol. She has drastically cut a lot of calories from her diet by going vegan, a lot of fruit and veg is consumed which is high in volume in food terms but low in calories, also the food is higher in fibre which is very satiating. I think you are right about Trigs continuing to go down and HDL going up. Thanks Reply Ryann T. Also just as important is your source of animal product. Or, can a low carb diet ruin your health. Learn More The Diet-Heart Myth Does eating cholesterol and saturated fat really cause heart disease. I believe diet lowered in sat. b. Reply Ken Kopelson says March 11, 2016 at 10:58 pm There is a huge connection between diet and the heart. I excerise regularly eat a healthy diet and I am of a normal weight. Go for grassfed meats, eggs and dairy If all this is too much work, follow a plant based (vegan) diet using mostly whole foods. Reply Joyce says March 12, 2015 at 4:47 pm Hi Liz, How many grams of carb are you consuming on average on a daily basis. I just wanted to prompt you to question it from a different angle. The only advice I can say is to watch your testing, and see what works for you. He completed the acclaimed Q-Symbio trial prior to his passing, which achieved a 43% reduction in cardiovascular mortality by using 300mg of myoqinon ubiquinone daily. Is this what you are recommending, or am I missing something. Find out why thyroid problems are so often mis-diagnosed, what really causes them, and how to heal them naturally. Why not someone else elsewhere, or jus a modern normal person of health. A friend of mine was told by her doctor that she had EXTREMELY high cholesterol levels and wanted to put her on X,Y, and Z medications. I eat certified humane pastured organic dairy and meats and harvest eggs from my own organic hens. Look up YouTube videos by well-respected doctors like Caldwell Esselstyn. Reply John says June 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm Obviously, those people who go on the plant based diet bring their cholesterol down because they are eliminating processed food, factory-produced fats, and added sugar. Reply Christine Pielenz says May 10, 2015 at 12:21 pm Well, HDL is the good fat, and LDL the bad. Take vegan diets, always lead to malnutrition (B12, K2, good fats, etc. Nobody rang a bell for breakfast, the same for lunch. When to eat, drink and be wary: 5 common food and medicine interactions. From what I have understood there is no correlation of Saturated Fats with Cholesterol or Cholesterol with heart disease. The distinction of where the source of he problem within the animal products comes from. An easy lower-body workout you can do anywhere. 0. In other words, one out of 320 (approximately) are on that risky road. For a LCHF diet to work you generally have to keep carbs around 20-50 grams a day. No fats makes bile sit in your galbladder and form stones. Those of you on HFLC diets be smart about the fats you eat and the sources. Tell us how you met your significant other. Reply Jonathan says January 8, 2016 at 6:32 pm Can you source any journals to verify your statement. Carbs are usually what drives up LDL and trigs. They vary from individual to individual, and some people with low cholesterol are unhealthy while some people with high cholesterol are perfectly healthy etc. I believe strongly that eating healthy fat improves metabolism and keeps your body from hoarding and storing it. Reply Fergusob says September 9, 2016 at 7:37 am So your individual experience outweighs hundreds of studies. Reply Eliza says October 26, 2015 at 10:17 am Vegetarianism does not mean inadequate protein. I started us on that before he had a problem, and then all of the sudden his cholesterol is through the roof. Start from there and go further to other videos like one by Dr. In a nutshell, you need to develop your own understanding by educating yourself. Excess omega-6 consumption leads to excess of inflammation. fats, you better know exactly what you are doing, know what problems you will cause and how to fix them. Here is one of my sources on this: Reply Richard says May 9, 2014 at 6:39 am Difficult to find one article with more BS in it than this one. This idea is so deeply ingrained in our cultural psyche that few people even question it. Reply Christine says March 11, 2016 at 11:36 am I totally agree I probably eat only a stick of butter a week myself but still. I also went through Private MD labs for my NMR lipoprofile and hs-CRP. The doctor had insisted that I take the cholesterol lowering drug but I never did. Often a piece of research that tells scientists what they were hoping for drives a certain interpretation that starts a trend and suddenly large groups of researchers find theyre coming up with similar results. Several things cause it, including oxidized LDL and elevated blood glucose (look up AGEs). No cheese, no eggs along with daily steel-cut oatmeal, chicken, fish and avocados. (Completely normal, as proven in clinical trials over decades). I would like to see some studies comparing those 2 groups. Do you know of studies showing that one does poorly on a (truly, as in 10% of calories) low-fat plant-based diet. However, people with total cholesterol values below 150 are not exempt from heart disease — and especially not health problems in general, as driving your total cholesterol below 160 can create serious health risks of its own. Model Iskra Lawrence, a longtime advocate for body positivity and self-love, posed in a dusty. From my understanding, I can tell you that you should simply forget about Cholesterol. Wanting me to take statins, I am now working with a dr who is plant based. The good news is that by December, I lost 26lbs (most of it fat), from 246 to 220. Reply Craig says November 30, 2016 at 5:33 pm Amen. SA Mortensen, concluded from his large body of research that HF is largely due to an energy-starved heart. Reply Wiseguy says June 20, 2016 at 10:44 am And broccoli is a flower designed to make new broccoli plants.
, and will, if continued lead to type 2 diabetes. Blood cholesterol can be completely controlled through dietary cholesterol. Most people claim that I must not get enough protein or fat, but after doing the numbers on this diet, my plant based diet is still 10% fat and 50 grams of protein. So I think there might be something else in your diet that might be causing the increase in your diet. Reply Birdsnest says October 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm I think the whole point of the article was to point out that saturated fats and cholesterol are not necessarily the enemy here. Reply joe says February 11, 2015 at 6:52 pm Camila, Are you taking any cholesterol lowering drugs, such as lipitor. Reply Roy Walker says January 25, 2016 at 4:29 pm camila. Gonna quit the butter, bacon, and red meat for awhile and go to more veggies, lean chicken, and fatty fish. I personally feel that it is carbs combined with fats that is the problem. For nutritional science I read books like the Okinawan Program, the Blue Zones and books by people that know what they are talking about like Drs Esselstyn, Ornish and Furhman, all of whom have reversed heart disease in real people. So the fact that is has less than butter does not recommend it. It has been seen that when people like Japanese emigrate to USA they get all the diseases of North America which were unheard of in their native land. All I have posted is well researched and verifiable. So I will tell you that for some reason, the old advice IS working for my fiance. 7 10. 25% of that comes from our diet, and 75% is produced inside of our bodies by the liver. Scientific information and REAL studies NOT designed to sell something are available for free. People often make dietary changes at the same time they start an exercise regimen, then when they lose weight and their blood numbers change, they credit their diet. The coconut oil is now being used only for skin cream. You guys must talk with body builders about what they think about that. Find out what really causes skin problems, and how simple dietary changes can restore the clear, beautiful skin you desire. What, is this site trolled by vegans or something. Would not have believed it before but have done much research since and it makes sense and works for me. The bad news is my total cholesterol shot up from 267 to 396. I believe my Dr. She also suggested that my low thyroid function could be the cause of these bad numbers and wrote me a script for Naturethroid (thyroid booster). He also is continuing to lower levels despite having stopped losing weight. and I enjoy hunting and gathering. I would suggest grass fed butter and grass fed beef lard and whole eggs. Still if you want to know more, I have compiled lot of resources like articles and videos on my blog for anybody to review. 9 5. Humans are designed to eat a variety of foods for optimal health. The people who care most about such advisories are those with high cholesterol levels, and they are likely also the people to whom this new advice least applies. Vegans are more health conscious, but there are also health conscious meat eaters. You totally fail to explain how people go on a whole plant-based diet and get their cholesterol levels below 150 and their LDL well below 100. If you can keep it up you just might achieve 0 cholesterol and then you will be dead. I think your friend might have left out that vital part. One does not have to pay the price with their income or loss of health though by using these drugs to achieve this benefit. Reply David Hannum says October 27, 2014 at 8:20 am When the first Statins (HMG Reductase Inhibitors) came out I signed up for an experimental protocol researching dietary fat, etc. I did blood tests at the beginning and after 90 days and had a significant drop in Cholesterol. I cook with butter and heavy cream and whole milk and egg yolks and lots of bacon. I try to walk a brisk pace every day 10 minutes at a minimum. Your cholesterol may be low now, but wait until your liver fails from choline deficiency. I can eat real butter sparingly but not the margarine, What ever they add to the produced food does not agree with me frsh is best of every thing but all in moderation. Reply winston thornbuckle says July 12, 2016 at 7:51 am Your doctor should have their medical license revoked. What kind of exercise does your friend do. Thanks for taking the time to highlight these important details. Heart disease was not a major issue 100 years ago for meat eaters because they ate a diet higher in complex carbs, grassfed meats and dairy with lots of fiber and much fewer processed foods. Reply K says September 15, 2015 at 10:47 pm Water is just one atom away from hydrogen peroxide yet you drink that. Reply Lori says November 19, 2016 at 12:19 pm Vegan for 13 years, have had blood work done and all is good, not lacking in any nutrients and when doctor looked at blood test results she said I have the cholesterol of a healthy 12 year old. Colin Campbell, at 66 he looked 92 then look at Loren Cordain when he Campbell appeared on the Larry King show, 2013, However, to be fair, Cordain was only 63, Campbell was 79 but looked over 100. Her cholesterol numbers are outstanding and she is thin and healthy. As I am trying to also lose fat from my body, I avoid high fat plant foods such as avocado and nuts. Get your insulin levels under control (and HbA1c). Most of us grew up being told that foods like red meat, eggs and bacon raise our cholesterol levels. Exactly what levels increase the risk is not known but it appears that everyone with levels below 150 with LDL below 100 have not had heart disease in any study. Reply Ajithkumar says December 1, 2014 at 11:59 am Excellent article Chris. Another person I know who was borderline diabetic is no longer at risk. Also, check The Great Cholesterol Myth out of your local library. I do appreciate all the comments, ideas and suggestions. Great article. Adding cholesterol to a cholesterol-free diet raises the blood level in humans, but when added to an unrestricted diet, it has a minimal effect. Reply Chris says May 30, 2016 at 8:20 am This seems to be a well researched and referenced article that is in contrast to much of the recent hype on fat and meat etc. 7 CRP 6. Strange thing is I should be a model for a low cholesterol lifestyle. This article seems to miss the elephant in the room, so to speak. Obviously, the bulk of your food should be vege, but most of your calories will undoubtedly come from your fats and meats. Reply Birdsnest says October 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm Really helpful summary Anthony. One piece of toast typically has 24g of carbs and for this type of diet you have to decrease the amount of carbs to 50g or less in order to eat above the RDA recommendations and not have increased cholesterol levels. This has been proven through the research at Cleveland Clinic. 2 TC 265 321 Triglyc 340 140 HDL 35 48 VLDL 68 28 LDL 162 245 A1C 5. Reply chopinlover says September 13, 2016 at 6:37 pm Same. high fat, paleo. People who eat diets low in cholesterol have 30% lower testosterone levels. He has done extensive research in this field. Jennifer Knapp Wilkinson is the woman seen in a cruel photograph that went viral years ago. Reply Jesse says December 21, 2014 at 8:58 pm The sugar in fruit is not entirely fructose. Reply Shailendra Chaudhary says December 27, 2014 at 10:02 am Very true and the same has happened in other parts of the world like Philippines and other nations of south east Asia. It is at 168 as of a few days ago so we are keeping it up. This is damage done to the endothelial walls of arteries. Sign up for FREE updates delivered to your inbox. My family has high cholesterol levels genetically (fortunately with high HDL levels) and I wanted to try dietary intervention to see what the result would be. Would it be really wise to artificially lower our cholesterol levels with drugs which has been proven to cause a myriad of other health complications. Reply Sandra Jones says October 24, 2016 at 4:06 pm I am with Lisa. I eat healthy fats like olive oil, MCT oil, coconut oil, grassfed butter, avocados, nuts, whole fat cheese and a little whole fat milk, leafy lettuce, kale, spinach, cucumbers, berries, broccoli, grass fed beef, bacon, cage free eggs, wild salmon. Reply Aaron says May 28, 2016 at 1:14 pm I have been on a paleo diet for over a year and my cholesterol is the lowset it has ever been. No alcohol,no cigarette,no unnecessary stress. But avoiding sugars now, keeping slim and fit by exercising like I always did. This works for me and is not any kind of advice. My last total cholesterol was 196 with my HDLs being 102. Reply Christine Pielenz says May 10, 2015 at 5:10 pm Thanks for that link. Briana Lopez, 12 years old, spent 210 days in hospital fighting cancer with a positive attitude. You can ditch the egg-white omelettes and start eating yolks again. This article and others that Chris Kresser have written are advocating saturated fats and cholesterol from grassfed meats and dairy. In mine, I have spent the last half year eating a low fat diet. Thanks very much, Chris Tetley MD Reply Regina says May 30, 2016 at 7:43 am Really. What is your observation there after doing the math. Maybe even an egg or two raw every now and then. low fat, plant diet 2. Would you pick someone who does not have a vegan bias. All sure to be stressful, and accomplish nothing. Reply Alison says November 8, 2015 at 1:01 am Thank you so much Anthony great summary I think this is the first time I have seen a sensible answer to the question What can I eat to keep healthy. The American way is twice that and the excess protein turns into sugar, gets into our blood, organs, etc. On any given day, we have between 1,100 and 1,700 milligrams of cholesterol in our body. For a healthy lifestyle, you need to EAT both. Reply Michael Landis says October 2, 2014 at 10:23 am Hi, John, I saw that you backlink to previous articles in this excellent series. Statins save lives in healthy people without heart disease. Reply Anthony says August 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm Look this is all really obvious. I DO NOT eat many carbs at all, but all the fat I want. Continue to do that in a balanced way, along with exercise, and you would live at your optimum. Our bodies are meant to eat fat and have been meant to do so for 250,000 years. Put another way, a diet which ignores fat and cholesterol, but restricts carbohydrates will lower blood cholesterol in most people. HDL went up to 120 from 81, but unfortunately LDL as well, from 118 to 326. Newlywed couple carries son with cancer back to his room after hospital wedding. GRAIN-FED meats and dairy contain higher levels of palmitic acid and myristic acid, 2 saturated fats linked to high cholesterol. S. My doc keeps telling me my cholesterol is high (waiting for test results in the mail) well with me it is genetic but once I get the results and see it is not as high as they claim it is I am not worried. Save the dairy for special occasions but remember that full cream is the best. You will see story after story of people who who have lost tremendous amounts of weight by eating lots of at with low cholesterol. Low in refined carbs but overall low to moderate amounts of carbs unless you lead a very active lifestyle. I know that when I eat it I notice it through my sinus and feel clogged up. I am starting to wonder about cholesterol because these new articles are quite the contrary to the experience we are having. The whole point of this article was that even the 25% of people whose cholesterol levels do rise, that these more important markers improve. The triglyceride ratio should be below 2. 91 5. Reply Yoyoyo says October 27, 2016 at 10:53 am You should start eating more saturated fat thats good your getting your omega 3s from fish and monos from avocado but you need to incorporate more saturated fat in your diet for optimal health. d. We have a lot of familial heart problems and I am trying to make this stop with our generation if possible. I am a reasonably fit, 120ib, 42 year old, female vegetarian. Cholesterol and saturated fat: dietary enemies or innocent victims of bad science. With no options for their adult son with autism, this couple builds a community. Reply Roy Walker says January 25, 2016 at 3:36 pm Good on you Peter, I am 68 in May of this year, and am eating LCHF, I just keep putting on fat around my middle, on grains and carbs, low fat medium protein, so switching to fat instead of carbs, and losing waistline. The human body cannot store fat without insulin, therefore by removing sugars, starches and unnatural carbs from your diet (vegetables are fine) your body has no choice but to lose weight. Now divide that up among the meals in your day. , eliminating sugar and lowering grain carbs has really helped me. I went on aHFLC diet for 4 months and got re-tested two weeks ago. Reply thetruest says November 26, 2014 at 3:13 am Sugar is good for you. As a research scientist for some 40 and as someone who also had the job of reviewing a lot of papers that other folks wanted to publish in peer reviewed journals, I can say that a lot of junk work slips through the cracks. not to mention the sugars that can be included. Reply Mike Barlow says June 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm I eat butter all the time. This created synthetic trans fatty acids that raise LDL- and lower HDL-cholestero, both considered bad for heart disease risk. Reply Karen says July 6, 2016 at 6:04 am I feel so sorry for your poor body. Reply Josh says November 14, 2014 at 8:34 am It is worth pointing out here that the better numbers may be caused by the 30lb weight loss. I feel like a new man Reply Lou says February 16, 2015 at 4:02 pm My husband was advised to get on statins and his total cholesterol is 197. Reply Big M says September 23, 2016 at 11:24 pm Enough with the BS already. Reply Mark says October 13, 2015 at 1:40 am Give the poor children quality milk. Total cholesterol and LDL alone are poor risk factor associations. Before that it was chasing down a wildebeast for days until it collapsed and perhaps not eating for several days. One question: what are the errors comitted by researchers who claim that their experiments prove that fat is unhealthy. Serum cholesterol (high LDL) is in fact the main predictor of heart disease. Go study the ground-breaking research of Caldwell Essestyn and the others at the Cleveland Clinic, renowned for their cutting -edge research in heart disease: Reply Regina says May 31, 2016 at 6:50 am Go away vegan. Everything else about nutrition is just a scare tactic. partially hydrogenated Vegetable oil found in some french fries, commercially made cakes, pastries and cookies etc. my results below. Lauren LaPorta pushed herself to stand and walk again to lose weight. Masses of research have been disproved in the past by new thinking. My thighs and flanks hold less fat now than when I was dieting and bloated all the time. There under Educational Videos look for a 7 minute video of Gary Taubes about Cholesterol. Minimize plant by products including oils, maximize animal by products. There have been even more studies since then. For families of older children with autism, the future can be scary. Learn More B12 Deficiency What do memory loss, depression, anxiety, fatigue, nerve pain, and infertility have in common. To calculate the ratio simply divide your HDL by your TOTAL cholesterol and multiply by 100 (move the decimal point over two places to the right). Once my weight stabilizes, I will include fattier plant foods again. Vegan diets are great for detoxing short term, but fall flat soon after. You may have lowered your cholesterol but you could end up with bowl cancer. People who eat a plant based diet tend to also eat more whole foods and whole foods usually contain low GI carbs (in addition to lots of fiber) which means less triglycerides. Reply Elizabeth Paul says June 11, 2016 at 9:51 am My mother in law was the only one in a large family, who was given the butter ration during the war. I cant seem to eat dairy foods like that as they clog my arteries. Reply Steven pace says September 4, 2016 at 9:36 am Chemistry is by definition electrical, the chemical properties of a substance relate to protons and electrons. I think taking statins for the rest of our lives in order to control our cholesterol levels is just an act of negligence. However, there is a growing number of enlightened people who actually are changing their diets and improving their health, meanwhile most people are not. It may not be the fat. Given your thyroid issue, talk with the ND about the benefits of organ meats like liver. I just read an article from Ketogains website ( ) where the author claims he can influence his serum lipid profile by eating saturated fat for three days prior to getting his blood tested. Reply Ken Kopelson says May 9, 2016 at 10:49 am Exactly Kendra. Got into trail running,hiking and all the activities I had neglected as part of raising a family. We now know more information for a more complete picture. I hope not, a dear relative of mine has just crossed over that dicey line. He claims that his lipid profile will improve dramatically and he actually documents it. Eating vegan can be great, and at least for me it has been. Have fun, make love, eat good food when hungry, dump the junk and be happy. I say from personal experience that it significantly helped what had been chronic depression, I lost 14kg and 6cm around my waist in 3 months, I regained my zest for life and energy to maintain it, and I have stopped feeling bloated. Reply Jill says December 3, 2016 at 3:49 pm After 1 year in keto working diligently eating 20-40 carbs Day, exercising daily, feeling better than ever, I was shocked and terribly discouraged to get my blood work back at my annual exam to see my ldl had gone from 120 to 175 and total cholesterol up to 273 from 208. It has a lot of citations, so you may find yourself renewing it several times to give yourself enough time to track it down. You can review most of it on my blog at: and read my Jan 2, 2015 post and comments under that on my Facebook page:. 6 Reply Thomas Bihn says May 21, 2014 at 7:27 am Matt, you can do both HFLC and Paleo together. and cholesterol levels. Reply Leslie says January 7, 2016 at 7:39 pm Eating saturated fat does not increase blood cholesterol level, but it does cause inflammation which is linked to heart disease. How to get what you really want this Christmas. Reply Bob Werner says July 15, 2014 at 11:08 am Chris, what about saturated fat and ED. Now my cholesterol has maintained for 3 years at 104-115 LDL and 170-180 overall. That is terrible considering all the positive effects testosterone has on your health. So, are these people metabolic anomalies or does eating saturated fats actually raise your serum cholesterol levels in the long run. Halved my total cholesterol level by eating and working less,sleeping and exercising more,much more than a couple of years ago. Reply Peter says February 13, 2015 at 11:39 pm I am 70 years old and have stopped taking Cholesterol drugs and feel much better for not taking these drugs. Anyhow, so when you keep carbs at 50 g, the body will need more energy and utilize the second source of energy which is fatty acids. How many vegans are there in the U. But it does not say anywhere to not eat plant based foods. Reply Stephanie says November 2, 2014 at 1:56 am The only positive thing gleaned for us from Grain Brain was to avoid Statins. You want to get with the program, get disciplined, then the fact is butter is awesome for you. Retrieved October 9, 2015, from Reply Dema says March 29, 2016 at 2:19 am The problem with all of these studies is that they are not comparing vegans to healthy meat eaters, but average people who eat average diets full of heavily processed foods. Reply Jennie says April 30, 2016 at 5:07 am Yes I felt the same until I had a Dr tell me I had a heart murmur which turned out to be a an 80% blocked carotid artery. Any idea why their blood results could change so much for the worse. As well, while saturated fat does raise LDL-cholesterol, it also raises HDL-cholesterol and lowers triglycerides. My ND freaked and threatened me with statins again. But, very few people resort to common sense to resolve the issue. I mean sure you can get by without it because the human body is really resilient but if were talking optimal fuel for your body then its the only way to go. Reply Ben Mahalik says September 28, 2015 at 8:45 am Good point. Maybe jsut lucky, but I say eat grass fed butter pure and natural. Learn More Nutrition for Healthy Skin Skin problems like acne, eczema, and rosacea are epidemic, yet conventional treatments rarely work. Up until the 1990s, margarines had a lot more trans fat due to the hydrogenation process that turns liquid oils in a semi-solid spread. Reply Matt says December 10, 2015 at 8:58 pm What studies link saturated fat with heart disease. Take for example this article here, by Michael Crawford and others fron 2012: For a lay person, it is almost impossible to judge the quality of the research. Omega-3s are anti-inflammatory and reduce risk of heart disease. I was only yesterday told I have raised cholesterol. Reply Lu says July 11, 2014 at 3:53 pm I have read this entire page and now my question that I hope will be answered is this: I like carbs and feel way better when I eat them. These average people also do not exercise enough, lead a sedentary lifestyle, have crappy sleeping patterns, barely eat vegetables etc etc. I would like to direct you to my blog where I have compiled lot of resources:. Although I was plant based for a year, on my own volition, my cholesterol barely went down. It upsets me the number of commenters who confess their cholesterol went way up when they went HFLC, as encouraged on sites like this one. A TODAY editor tests out the cleanse that Kelly Ripa said changed her life. Other wise when you consume both there will definitely be a rise. I eat everything I wish,some junk food once in a while. I have read that a paleo type diet that uses commercial meat can increase saturated fat and very rapidly create ED symptoms in men. My bet is that most if not all of the differences would go away. Reply Jennifer simmonds says January 14, 2015 at 3:17 pm I totally understand what you are sayin but I still need your advice. Reply Tae Kim says July 11, 2015 at 9:55 pm Are we really suffering from high cholesterol. People need to do their own research and USE COMMON SENSE. My nose gets stuffy and I get giant boils on my face, especially with cheese. I have in mind the published studies by Ornish and by Esselstyn, as well as the Okinawa centenarian studies, among others. This was only some 20,000 years or so ago. In a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine in 1991, Ancel Keys, the founder of the diet-heart hypothesis said ( 1 0): Dietary cholesterol has an important effect on the cholesterol level in the blood of chickens and rabbits, but many controlled experiments have shown that dietary cholesterol has a limited effect in humans. Thanks for all of the content and education here. Weight Energy Digestion Brain Overall Health All of the Above I hate spam too. Americans have pretty much thrown that out the. I would definitely get blood work done as you could be doing yourself a great disservice. I assume that most people who go on plant based diets choose fresh and unprocessed vegetables, rather than processed vegetables such as fries. e. I am jumping back on to a diet consisting of fish, chicken, eggs and green vegetables. You also fail to explain how during the study of 45,000 nurses in the Framingham Study there was not one person that got heart disease in 25 years with cholesterol below 150. Reply Shailendra Chaudhary says December 27, 2014 at 10:15 am Karina, if you have read this article you should already know it. Reply Slaziar says October 3, 2015 at 1:35 pm Grossly modifying a diet from refined foods to wholefoods and then excluding animal based products does not mean that the exclusion of animal based products reduced your friends cholesterol. What a drag, but then is it natural to separate cream from milk and slather our foods with what is delicious, that is, butter. Reply Zina says January 15, 2017 at 2:34 pm True that. Good healthful fats make good (HDL) cholesterol which removes bad (LDL) cholesterol. Health news, stories and tips that inspire healthy diets, relationships and lives. Low blood sugar triggers all sorts of metabolic responses, the two relevant ones being lipolysis and proteolysis. Reply Amy Gard says October 28, 2014 at 5:05 pm I am a care provider for a program that is subsidized by the USDA, which requires that we serve milk for breakfast and lunch. Omega 3 fats found in avocado, flax, fatty fish like salmon, tuna, mackerel, sardines, grassfed meats and diary etc. Reply Jill says December 8, 2016 at 3:14 pm What I am learning is that everyone processes cholesterol differently so you have to find what works for you. Previously, I ate lots of cheese, eggs and hamburger. Would love to have you on the show to talk about cholesterol. Good saturated fats. Basically, everything the newer articles (including this one) are saying is a myth, now. The reason being is that glucose is the main source of energy in our body and the body reaches for that first. Because most of the (re)actions taking place in cell and cell-wall are not chemical reactions. Reply Nancy says August 1, 2016 at 2:08 pm Same thing happened to me. The issue is really the QUALITY of these foods. Get checked out before throwing away the low fat diet. High LDL and medium HDL is not a good recommendation. says May 12, 2014 at 10:40 am This is such a scam. Also rashes around mouth with excema from dairy. Research yourself the links between cancer and animal fats and see what turns up. Nora Gedgaudas, who wrote Primal Body, Primal Mind said the most ill clients she treated were ex-vegans or vegans still in the loop. Why would I swap lovely creamy whole milk for tasteless semi-skimmed, or worse, skimmed. We have the processes specifically to meet our bodies energy requirements, they do not signal some kind of detriment to health in the presence of sufficient protein and fat intake. Started the high fat, low carb (no sugar, no grain) diet in July. More Joy recipe remakes: French fries, doughnuts and brownies. I have found that they have done more harm to my body than good. YOU need to exercise more, get that fat ass moving. High packing factor of Cholesterol and saturated fatty acids coupled with the presence of tiny calcium compounds can clog the arteries. I am not religious, but I often think about what a bunch of gluttons our society has turned into. Reply Tien Chen Tu says December 26, 2016 at 8:24 pm Careful with what you write. how about continuing with this diet and start taking NIACIN tablets. Not only that, when people in big cities like Tokyo gravitate towards Standard American Diet (SAD) then they get similar diseases in their own lands. If you actually study chemistry, then you realize that everything is ridiculously similar. The diet-heart hypothesis—which holds that eating cholesterol and saturated fat raises cholesterol in our blood—originated with studies in both animals and humans more than half a century ago. This situation is different from that in the USA and UK. Reply Joe says June 6, 2014 at 4:26 pm When one goes to the doc and get their cholesterol checked, how should one interpret the numbers. A moderate amount of omega-6 fats found in vegetable oils like canola oil (linoleic acid) and in grassfed meats (conjugated linoleic acid). Many carbs and cereal grains are recent addition to mans diet when he gave up hunter gathering and picking up nuts and berries. but other factors this suggests. That other guy should get with the program thinking he knows it all and actually go talk to a health professional about good fats and low carb dieting like I did. Reply Falon says November 20, 2015 at 9:41 am Yes, this is very well written and perfectly stated. Studying cholesterol levels between 180 to 255 and saying cholesterol makes no difference is more of ignorance than science. I am from India and the edible oil industry created this misconception that Coconut oil is bad, cholesterol is bad. The micronutrient has 7 patents and 14 clinical studies. Been running half marathons for over 30 years now. You will be amazed at the difference Reply Yvonne Durrant says January 8, 2017 at 5:00 am Go to and read the science behind this micronutrient. Also, do more research on resistant starches and what it does for the bacteria in the lower intestine. So, sorry — your assertion that people who eat butter are fat is wrong. When cholesterol intake in the diet goes up, the body makes less. Reply Lars says July 8, 2015 at 10:27 pm Thank you Chris and the rest of the team for providing so much interesting information on nutrition and health. I eat tons of healthy fats like avocado and olive oil on everything and I am skinny as a rail. Eat only real natural foods as nature intended. Reply Thomas Baird says August 16, 2015 at 4:11 pm In the 1970s, bad nutritional advice was released tot he public advocating a low-fat diet. Reply Pauleis says May 10, 2015 at 12:41 pm Check out this article by Dr. You can get your insulin under control using a paleo diet for a start. I had v little fat though, eating avocado in one piece of toast daily, usually Burgen bread, and then other stuff like salad and greet yoghurt and a usual tea, usual meats. Since this is my preference can I lower my intake of meats to allow for the carbs I seem to need so much more than meat(I can feel it) and will not eating as much meat but still eating carbs help my cholesterol go down some. Learn More Effortless Paleo Weight Loss Are you struggling to lose weight—or keep it off. It can be done with diet for just about everyone. I would just like to get to the bottom of this. Is that true that saturated fat raises cholesterol higher than cholesterol intake does. Reply thetruest says December 30, 2014 at 4:50 am Ok fine, so i had a brain fart about the fruit sugar. You were apparently getting enough fats and the right amounts that way. I have gotten lazy over the years and now at 53 am sitting at 231. Turn to sugar and not the same.
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